Up2Give’s failed Helium Network venture


Up2Give was launched by Jerry Lopez in late 2019.

A fraudulent gifting scheme, Up2Give because it initially launched collapsed mid final yr.

Lopez nonetheless was intent on additional milking Up2Give members. Cue the introduction of U2G Community late final yr.

U2G Community was introduced on or round September 2020. In essence, Up2Give was trying to plug its associates into the Helium Community.

Naturally how they opted to do it’s unbelievable dodgy and lacked transparency.

Up2Give’s implementation of the Helium Community is thru a “main partnership” with PrimeGate.

PrimeGate is a part of PrimeOne and PrimeDomain

What’s PrimeGate, PrimeOne and PrimeDomain you ask? Nicely, yeah.

PrimeGate/PrimeOne solely appears to exist on the web site area “primegate.org”.

It’s an outdated web site that includes a map. You click on on the map and finally it’ll throw up a Flash error.

Not stunning, since Flash was formally deserted by Adobe final yr.

There’s no hyperlink to it however the PrimeGate web site additionally hosts an online storefront.

It’s right here Up2Give associates have been anticipated to buy a “PrimeGate LoraHub” for $495.

Keith Buck owns PrimeGate, PrimeOne and PrimeDomain. Up2Give associates have to use for a contract with him.

As soon as permitted and paid up, Up2Give associates then be a part of the “World PrimeGate Crew” on Telegram.

The purpose was to get a Metropolis Developer’s License, which prices $40,00zero. On high of that it’s a must to buy at the least ten $495 LoraHub items, which is one other $four,950.

On the backend this was all purportedly tracked by Google Docs spreadsheets.

As to why anybody would leap by all these hoops;

A Metropolis Developer will earn Twenty-five p.c (25%) of the income generated throughout the Licensed Metropolis assigned to you by contract.

Plus 10% of the income generated by All Metropolis Developer’s you enroll personally, you obtain 10% of their License income: (independently auditable Ten p.c (10 %) of that CDL’s ENTIRE GLOBAL REVENUE)

Whether or not that’s paid in actual cash or HNT tokens is unclear.

Anyhow in the event you go to Up2Give’s web site, which remains to be on-line regardless of the gifting scheme collapsing, there’s no point out of their Helium money seize.

To seek out out all of it got here crumbling down we flip to former Up2Give promoter, Brandon Ivey.

In a Facebook Live held in early January, Ivey defined what occurred.

[20:48] In about forty-five days or so, we’re August and September, that we have been working for first payroll for October 15th.

So I’ll go from August to the top of October, collectively we did greater than one million dollars in gross sales.

With no web sites, no automation, no company calls, no calls with freaking Keith Buck himself, no nothing.

No one’d been paid. No one received the hubs. Nothing and we nonetheless did seven figures price of gross sales – to be paid out on October 15th.

My first crimson flag and concern got here from the individual that introduced the Nation Builders collectively within the first place – Jerry Lopez.

Now if us as Nation Builders have been set to get half one million dollars on a month-to-month foundation, what do you suppose Jerry was gonna get?

Particularly bringing the entire Up2Give household over, utilizing PrimeGate, all their merchandise offered by the Up2Give identify.

The one that had probably the most to achieve was the CEO himself, which was Jerry Lopez.

[23:00} So the primary crimson flag is unexpectedly there is no such thing as a workers in place, there is no such thing as a web site in place to deal with the automation.

So he (Lopez) brings on board Kris Hanks and Michelle Whidby.

The individuals who have been accountable for dealing with customer support from Up2Give … nevertheless it will get worse.

[24:54] Then we come to seek out out, that not solely are they dealing with the logistics however they’re additionally Metropolis Builders.

Not solely are they Metropolis Builders however … that they had 100 contracts carried out earlier than even the Contract Builders had a contract in hand.

[25:30] There’s a clear battle of curiosity, whether or not direct or implied.

Even when Chris and Michelle labored 100% above-board, individuals who don’t know them can declare, “I didn’t get my metropolis, as a result of Chris or Michelle gave it to any person on their workforce”.

If not right here to say whether or not that’s true or not. However these have been the accusations and I known as them on it.

That’s after I received locked out.

I nonetheless performed ball with this complete logistics nightmare of getting spreadsheets and manually taking orders.

[26:25] That is the place Jerry Lopez dropped the ball.

[26:46] So let’s return to Helium. Once we’re coping with professionals, professionals do their homework.

Professionals wanna know … is there actually a contract with us and them (Helium Community).

Professionals will contact them. That’s not a unfavorable, that’s simply doing appropriate enterprise.

So what occurred when our professionals began to do their due-diligence?

The primary due-diligence was on the contract and the tackle on the contract, that went to some run-down home in, the place was it, Colorado or Utah someplace?

We all know Keith doesn’t dwell there it’s not an workplace. however that tackle is on the contract.

We all know that (from) contacting Helium, there was no association with Helium and Prime so far as they have been involved.

No matter Keith was doing with the folks behind the scenes, possibly so. However simply from contacting them, there was no contract. There was no deal made.

Now have been have been informed (that) as a result of members determined to do their very own due-diligence, we’re ruining it for everyone else – so now we are able to’t discuss Helium anymore.

That’s what you offered us on. You offered us on Helium however now we are able to’t discuss Helium anymore.

We have been informed we have been going to get a certain quantity of HNT day-after-day, from the second we purchased our hubs.

No one each noticed that. We by no means noticed the HNT cash.

And it was at this level Jerry disappeared. So the Nation Builders took it upon themselves to proceed shifting ahead.

[30:06] The phrase is, the deal was, Jerry was imagined to deal with all of the logistics. The one factor Prime was imagined to do was ship the product and pay commissions.

However what Prime didn’t know is that Up2Give didn’t have its paperwork so as.

[31:20] So I don’t know what Jerry, what enterprise was occurring that he did what he needed to do, that’s his enterprise.

And that is the place Sean Starr stepped in and saved the entire program.

Sean stepped in and stated he may do what Jerry was going to do.

Right here’s the error Sean Starr made … the error he made was doing it alone.

[36:47] October 15th rolls round and we’re imagined to receives a commission.

Every week earlier than we’re imagined to receives a commission I begin to see flurry and I’m getting cellphone calls from Sean and Kris.

They usually’re speaking about Jerry dropped the ball. And all fingers are being pointed to Jerry for messing issues up, so now we’re not gonna receives a commission the best way we have been imagined to.

And they also’re searching for another. They usually needed us to return to all our members and gather checking account data, money app data, PayPal data.

[37:46] We did it. Why? As a result of we needed folks to receives a commission.

I’m truly skipping one thing. I get a message trigger I’m saying, “It’s been greater than sixty days, the place are our gadgets?”

So I get a message saying, “Brandon, your machine is within the mail. It’s best to get it by Monday. And if you get it, we’d like you to do a Fb Dwell unboxing.”

The field is available in. I’m excited. I schedule a Fb Dwell … I open up the field and I’m like, “What the hell is that this?”

However I’m dwell proper now, so I gotta watch how I react.

So I’m excited to get one thing. I don’t know what it’s, what it does. I didn’t even plug it in but.

However different folks appeared on the field from my digicam and so they began wanting stuff up.

They usually knew straight away, this ain’t a hub.

So that they went to the teams and began asking questions.

After which I don’t know who it was, Kris, or any person else, responded by saying, “That’s not the hub. That’s, I don’t know, some take a look at machine. You ought to be getting the actual hub in a few weeks and also you ship this one again”.

I nonetheless haven’t received the freakin’ hub. That was months in the past.

[40:07] Then I get a cellphone name from Sean and Kris, they known as it a loyalty name.

And the decision was, “Hey buddy we simply wanna make sure that, you realize, in the event you’re gonna go together with Jerry or in the event you’re gonna go together with us?”

“Us? What the hell you speaking about, us?”

“Yeah we uh, we’re selecting up the items that Jerry left and we’re gonna create an organization. And we’re gonna hold issues going and we speak to Keith day-after-day and he understands what we’re doing and we’re nonetheless gonna make this occur.

We’d like to nonetheless have you ever on board.”

So I stated to start with, I’m by no means doing something with Jerry Lopez once more. However as a result of I’m not doing something with Jerry, that doesn’t imply I’m shifting in your path.

There are three issues it’s worthwhile to accomplish earlier than I even take into consideration that.

Primary, pay us for the work we did.

Quantity two, ship the merchandise.

And quantity three, the place are our HNTs.

And right here’s the largest loop of all of them.

“Oh, we’re not doing HNT anymore. We’re gonna offer you guys one thing known as TRC.”

They stated it’s gonna be higher than HNT. It’s gonna be price a greenback a coin.

“Oh it’s not on any trade but it’s one thing we’re gonna be creating.”

So what you’re telling me is, you’ve received a coin with no worth. But that you just’re saying is a assured one greenback.

… You’re mendacity to folks otherwise you’re deceptive them. Second, you simply pulled a bait and change.

And you then need to go behind the scenes and say Brandon is telling folks to get a refund, or to chargeback? However he nonetheless expects to receives a commission?

No, I anticipate to receives a commission for the rattling work I did. From September, that was imagined to be paid on October 15th.

Lengthy story brief, nothing was delivered and no person received paid (Ivey does state some folks received paid by selective pay-runs).

No matter Up2Give had deliberate for Helium Community and HNT seems to be lifeless within the water.

If all this occurred late final yr, you’re in all probability questioning why I’m protecting it now.

I had a reader write in and request I have a look into a possible Up2Give reboot. That is what I discovered.

Brandon Ivey maintains that because of Up2Give’s Helium deal collapsing, he was “made out to be the dangerous man”. Ivey maintains his “fame speaks for itself.

BehindMLM first got here throughout Ivey as a promoter of Kryptogenex, a failed scheme that dedicated securities fraud.

Along with shifting on to Up2Give, an unlawful gifting scheme, Ivey could be discovered on Fb in the present day selling Twin TurboTRX.

Twin TurboTRX is a smart-contract Ponzi scheme. Whereas Ivey’s fame actually does communicate for itself, we’re unsure he understands what sort of fame he has.

Jerry Lopez (proper) seems to have taken no matter he stole by Up2Give and disappeared.

Equally, no matter plans Sean E. Starr and Kris Hanks had for their very own firm appear to have fallen by. The pair look like laying low.

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